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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 08:29:35am |
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When I Paint My Masterpiece |
... my latest obsession. (Making some progress in recovering from obsession with Catfish John.)
Anyone have recommendations? 80-2-29 has worn a deep groove in my brain.
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Zaorish |
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January 14, 2011 08:39:32am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
The best version, without a doubt in the house, is 1984-11-29 JGB in Passaic. Also the longest version, clocking in at 8:15, and no sir that is NO coincidence! It's like 80% jam. As GD versions go, 1989-08-06 has a cool one (that is a good show in general).
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Zaorish |
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January 14, 2011 08:41:28am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
excuse me, 1984-11-24, late show.
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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 08:44:27am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
Thanks guys. And while we're at it, if anyone has the slightest idea what that song is about, I'd be interested.
I asked my husband, who is a Dylan nut, and he gave me a sort of "Everyone knows that ..." answer, leading me to suspect that he doesn't know either.
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Zaorish |
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January 14, 2011 09:05:01am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I interpret it as just Dylan being disgusted with his own fame while on tour in Rome, and him sorta projecting the anger onto everybody else. "when I paint my masterpiece" as in "when I am finally good enough to be taken 'seriously' or something". I love the song though.
Incidentally, if youre interested in the JGB show see the topic above this one.
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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 09:02:59am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I'm listening to this now ... I'm so unaccustomed to 90's, this is kind of interesting. They seem ... erratic. You think they're half asleep, then suddenly they come to life -
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Reade |
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January 15, 2011 07:44:29am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
Absolutely erratic, kinda garage band sounding. Warts and all playing for sure. I knew recommending a 90's version was gonna be against the grain ... I just love it what can I say?
Jerry's solo is so sweet and innocent, the jelly in the middle of an odd sounding donut. I love how his soloing can be so unpretentious. No 'listen to my rock star solo on this one' stuff seems to ever go on.
I also love the Dylan lyrics, and Jerry's playing on his tunes always seems to go right to the emotional-heart-of-the-matter. The Dead musically interpreting Dylan's words was a perfect marriage if there ever was one imo.
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Death&Mercy |
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January 14, 2011 09:25:30am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
Always thought the 14 min 02/02/80 version was the best. Featured on Garcia Plays Dylan. The Kean College rendition is good as well. Don't recall the night after though, the one you mention. I'll have to review that one.
And I, too, have a minor obsession with Catfish John. So much great music in winter/spring 1980.
This post was modified by Death&Mercy on 2011-01-14 17:25:30
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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 11:06:51am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
People don't seem to talk about Catfish John - it's such a fabulous song.
Certainly not to diss Bobby but I think I don't really want Bobby singing Masterpiece - def. partial to JGB on that one.
Desolation Row - Bobby can sing that one to my liking.
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Death&Mercy |
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January 14, 2011 12:45:41pm |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
portmcgroin, thanks for that.
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WillCo |
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January 14, 2011 01:29:43pm |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I totally agree about 02/02/1980; my favourite by miles. Haven't checked out some of the other recommendations, but I always prefer Jerry's singing of this over Bobby's.
As a companion to the excellent official release "Garcia Plays Dylan", might I suggest a nice mp3 compilation (by robbiem@optonline.net) called "Garcia Does Dylan" that I found a while ago on sugarmegs. It has two further WIPMMs: JGB 7/27/1980 Albany (good but has an annoying organ solo)and the acoustic Garcia & Khan 11/27/1984 Rochester (which is absolutely beautiful)
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January 14, 2011 11:30:52am |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I suggest you immediately seek out JGB 2/7/80 at The Catalyst if you haven't already heard it. While the sound isn't superior quality, it has IMO one of the best versions of both Catfish John and Masterpiece ever.
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Jobygoob |
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January 14, 2011 01:20:26pm |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1988-03-28.sbd.miller.91233.sbeok.flac16This show, listened to over and over on a beat up old cassette way back in the day, was how I absolutely fell in love with this song, most especially because of Jerry's backing vocals. Give it a listen, I'm streaming it now and it sounds great.
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leftwinger57 |
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January 14, 2011 02:17:44pm |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I do know that it is not a very big favorite song here for
whatever reason. I do happen to like the song my self and actually rather have BW sing it than Dylan himself. I thought it a curious choice of song to play at Jorma's bash at
the Beacon but it did work and as they say the crowd went
wild. After changeing from a gibson 335 he stapped on an acoustic Martin and this was a nice touch after all the
blues and jamming along the way.Good song better night...LW
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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 07:48:25pm |
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Re: When I Paint My Masterpiece |
I'm listening. The Box of Rain there is very nice too, and Phil is being funny - after "What do you want me to do" he says "Remember the words ..." "Well please don't be surprised when you find me forgetting them ...." Aside from the lyrics flubs, it's really strong and nice vocally, both Phil and Bob.
Happy happy crowd.
actually everyone sounds great here except Jerry - sheesh.
This post was modified by ringolevio on 2011-01-15 03:48:25
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Death&Mercy |
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January 14, 2011 03:41:57pm |
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Oops |
That 2/29 version you mention is actually the one I mistakenly put in the Kean College show on the 28th. It's on the Kean College release as bonus material, but played the night after, obviously.
A good one indeed. My 2nd favorite behind 02/02.
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portmcgroin |
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January 14, 2011 05:31:14pm |
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Re: Oops |
I have the 2-2-80 on tape and had to break it out to listen to it today. The Masterpiece was the encore imagine that after a After Midnight with a Elanor Rigby in the middle. Even sounded good on a murky old tape.
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ringolevio |
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January 14, 2011 07:22:19pm |
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Re: Oops |
thanks everyone (haven't caught up with all this).
Did that After Midnight - Eleanor Rigby thing ever happen any other time?
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portmcgroin |
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January 15, 2011 06:07:09am |
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Re: Oops |
9 times in early 1980 it is on the After Midnight Kean College Official release(2-28-80) they have a copy of the 2-2-80 here
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/j.html not sure on the sound quality and the show downloads all in one track but you can always stream it.
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